Hardest part of the game: joining a match

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schnikes

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dayum dat bad computer? Mines just fine!
No, if you try to join the server with a communication error, it will give you a java exception and then lock you out until after the server reconnects and a little after that. My computer is absolutely fine.
 

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-Avoid servers 1-5 in US and EU. (not sure about CA and AU.) The early numbers are the ones the donors will most likely flock to, and sometimes you'll even have full donor games. The larger the number of the server, the less donors you should expect.
If it's for AU avoid AU1 and 2 seeing as SG4 is broken on all the servers besides AU1 but most people prefer AU2.

Your best bet on AU servers would be AU6,7,8.

Anything less than 10 mbps download is probably a bit too laggy to fight properly anyway.
I'm in the same boat with Zeno with download speed yet I'm ok.
 

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[quote="I understand your frustration, but this is sadly how it must be. When it comes to the games, it's really, really hard to find good donor perks that will be desired without giving them in game advantages, which would be worse and make it more "pay to win" than anything. Kicking players is the one main feature that attracts donors - without it, there would be a lot less donors, and keeping the servers running would be far harder - what with 30 US, 30 EU, 8 CA and 8(?) AU servers...it takes a lot more money to keep these servers running than you might think.

My first 200 wins I achieved without ever donating...I donated for my first time, and despite the fact that I had such a method to get into servers prior, I loved it. The fact that I got into those 500-600 games without donor is amazing, considering I was never donor the entire time...I do not, however, have any idea what it's like to connect now, as I no longer have to go through the painful process of finding one, haven't needed to for at least 3 months - however, I can give tips to getting in:

-The last non-donor spectator user who joined will be the person who is kicked when a donor joins next. (assuming the server is full.) To avoid being kicked, your best bet is to get into the server as soon as possible after it restarts. Watch the server list for servers in deathmatch, add them to your server list, and refresh every now and then (don't do it too frequently - if you refresh too often, you'll get "communication error" and the only way to fix it is to wait about 5 seconds, then refresh again - this can really throw you off if you get it just before the server comes back up.)
-As soon as the server comes up and you are able to connect, simply double click it and you should make it in without being kicked most times.
-Avoid servers 1-5 in US and EU. (not sure about CA and AU.) The early numbers are the ones the donors will most likely flock to, and sometimes you'll even have full donor games. The larger the number of the server, the less donors you should expect.

The main problem I'm noticing is that users with a not-so-good internet connection may have trouble getting into a lobby soon enough to not get kicked. Most times, (provided you aren't on the early number servers.) if you didn't manage to make it in or were a late joiner, when you know that you tried as soon as you could, you're probably too laggy to even play the games properly anyway. I suggest checking your internet speed on a website like speedtest.net. Anything less than 10 mbps download is probably a bit too laggy to fight properly anyway...sadly, the more and more users that join our servers, the harder and harder it is to get into a server with a semi-slow internet connection. Not much we can do about it, though...My only suggestion is to try to improve your internet connection by any means you can, although the best answer for that is to pay for better internet connection, which assuming you are the average age of players on here, might be out of your reach... (No offense, but I just assume everyone on here is about the average age of players on here unless otherwise stated. :p)

But mainly, though, if you donate, you'd never have to worry about this again, and it's also something a lot more people in the average age range of players can do. It supports the servers and gives you some nice perks, including said kick upon joining ability...I know what it's like to be a regular user like you, and so I hate to sound like a greedy jerk, (not that I get any money from donations - I'm not getting payed for this.) but I've never seen an unhappy donator yet, and even with my knowledge to easily get into servers without donor, it was far worth it for me.

I hope this helped a bit. I am sorry to say it, but removing the kicking feature for donors is just not really possible, as it's the really huge reason for people to donate - Sadly, faster internet = more likely to get into the game, and there's not really much we can do about that. (Although admittedly, those with faster internet connection, the ones who are less likely to lag out, are probably the ones we would more like to see in the games - not to say we don't care for those who do, but it's certainly a lot more fun to play in a game where nobody lags during your fight with them causing you to lose or something.) [/quote]


---Thank for you for answering my questions. Yes, if I had the money as of now to spend freely, I honestly would. But me and my family are in a what you would call an economic crisis. No, it does not bother me that you say I could donate. It's an honest thing that can solve all my problems. I just cannot right now. I have one more thing though that, if you could guys could help me out on, I would greatly appreciate.

What would be your opinion on a private, or white listed, server that only donators could use? I've seen them on other Minecraft servers and they seem to work wonderfully. I think that would kindly solve the problem to an extent. Maybe not completely but it could help out a bit. I do not know the price though, so if it would be expensive, why not spend one day of the week to change a few of the survival games' vast quantity to private servers? Again, I do not know the price to do this, and I'm sure the creators and others have probably looked into it, but thank you for taking your time to help a lost soul out.

For all of you others that replied, thank you as well. (most) of you have helped me clear this up!

[quote="was going to come in here, roast a noob, and req lock, but this is really well thought out and well done. [/quote]
thank you, I generally try to think it out before posting so I actually get some replies. :p
 
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I understand your frustration, but this is sadly how it must be. When it comes to the games, it's really, really hard to find good donor perks that will be desired without giving them in game advantages, which would be worse and make it more "pay to win" than anything. Kicking players is the one main feature that attracts donors - without it, there would be a lot less donors, and keeping the servers running would be far harder - what with 30 US, 30 EU, 8 CA and 8(?) AU servers...it takes a lot more money to keep these servers running than you might think.

My first 200 wins I achieved without ever donating...I donated for my first time, and despite the fact that I had such a method to get into servers prior, I loved it. The fact that I got into those 500-600 games without donor is amazing, considering I was never donor the entire time...I do not, however, have any idea what it's like to connect now, as I no longer have to go through the painful process of finding one, haven't needed to for at least 3 months - however, I can give tips to getting in:

-The last non-donor spectator user who joined will be the person who is kicked when a donor joins next. (assuming the server is full.) To avoid being kicked, your best bet is to get into the server as soon as possible after it restarts. Watch the server list for servers in deathmatch, add them to your server list, and refresh every now and then (don't do it too frequently - if you refresh too often, you'll get "communication error" and the only way to fix it is to wait about 5 seconds, then refresh again - this can really throw you off if you get it just before the server comes back up.)
-As soon as the server comes up and you are able to connect, simply double click it and you should make it in without being kicked most times.
-Avoid servers 1-5 in US and EU. (not sure about CA and AU.) The early numbers are the ones the donors will most likely flock to, and sometimes you'll even have full donor games. The larger the number of the server, the less donors you should expect.

The main problem I'm noticing is that users with a not-so-good internet connection may have trouble getting into a lobby soon enough to not get kicked. Most times, (provided you aren't on the early number servers.) if you didn't manage to make it in or were a late joiner, when you know that you tried as soon as you could, you're probably too laggy to even play the games properly anyway. I suggest checking your internet speed on a website like speedtest.net. Anything less than 10 mbps download is probably a bit too laggy to fight properly anyway...sadly, the more and more users that join our servers, the harder and harder it is to get into a server with a semi-slow internet connection. Not much we can do about it, though...My only suggestion is to try to improve your internet connection by any means you can, although the best answer for that is to pay for better internet connection, which assuming you are the average age of players on here, might be out of your reach... (No offense, but I just assume everyone on here is about the average age of players on here unless otherwise stated. :p)

But mainly, though, if you donate, you'd never have to worry about this again, and it's also something a lot more people in the average age range of players can do. It supports the servers and gives you some nice perks, including said kick upon joining ability...I know what it's like to be a regular user like you, and so I hate to sound like a greedy jerk, (not that I get any money from donations - I'm not getting payed for this.) but I've never seen an unhappy donator yet, and even with my knowledge to easily get into servers without donor, it was far worth it for me.

I hope this helped a bit. I am sorry to say it, but removing the kicking feature for donors is just not really possible, as it's the really huge reason for people to donate - Sadly, faster internet = more likely to get into the game, and there's not really much we can do about that. (Although admittedly, those with faster internet connection, the ones who are less likely to lag out, are probably the ones we would more like to see in the games - not to say we don't care for those who do, but it's certainly a lot more fun to play in a game where nobody lags during your fight with them causing you to lose or something.)
Teach me how to post like this 0_0
 

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This game seems to be great and looks extremely fun, but sadly, I don't think it's population will grow much anymore because of this one frustrating fact: better experienced players or donators get all the perks.

I am a new player to this game, and I am positive you have heard this complaint many a time, and if you have, dismiss it as you have the others. But something needs to change to support the newcomers and the players that simply "can't make the cut". If you think there is a successful game out there where players don't come first, then you're right. There's many. But I'm sure more hate it than love it. And I am terrified to admit that that is where your game is headed. I have been trying and trying to get into a game for about a week, and I get faced with the same problem each time: A better player joins, and I am the best candidate to get kicked out of the game. How is that fair, how is that balanced? I have honestly not played a game yet. Only spectated in wonder, hoping that I will make it into a game someday. I have some ideas that may help us new players a bit.

Add one main go-to server to find every single other server to join into. One for U.S, and one for EU. It would both help clean up the mass amounts of servers on the multi-player screen in minecraft AND make it easier to play games. Now if you already have this, then I apologize because I have not seen anything about that.

Another idea would be that, at the end of each game, to not allow the people that were just playing back into that given server. It would give others a chance.

You could just erase the whole "better players should get in first" idea as well. I'm sure you lose more fans to that than anything else. This idea not only makes people leave the game in anger and frustration, but it also makes people such as me think "well apparently the creators love the people that have given money and/or time into this game more than me." I'm sure that's not true and I'm sure you're trying, but I haven't seen anything yet.

That's all I have, if these have already been answered, please direct me to the answers or tell me since my blind eyes did not see them. Please help us poor noobs that can't donate or buy premium as well. Thank you for your time.
~may the odds be forever in your favor
I was going to have a right go at you but I'm now hesitant to do so because you genuinely have thought about your post and your argument. Its nice to see this because all we usually see is "Y I HAZ TU PAI TO GET INTUH TEH SURVUR!? FAK U GAIS U SUK COS U ONLI WUNT TEH MUNYS"
So I commend you for your post but sadly, I think we're all just gonna have to deal with it. (I hope i didnt come off as rude there)
And honestly, this is one of the nicest posts I've seen on here for a while :)
 

GibboAssassin

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You could just erase the whole "better players should get in first" idea as well.

People will high amount of points don't kick to join, we've never done that.

You're getting kicked by donators, a group of people who have donated towards the servers and get the ability to kick to join (Mods, Sr.Mods and Admins also get this ability but that is so we can jump into games to get spammers or hackers or whatnot, you know, rule breakers). It's a perk of buying donor and donating towards the running of the server.

Now, we're not going to drop these perks from donators as these servers take a LOT of money to run (remember how many we have, the ram added to them, etc, etc) and we need the donations to keep everything going. If you're getting kicked a lot, please either donate or a cheaper way is to look for games with Post_Deathmatch on them in your server list. Once you see that, wait for it to restart and then jump in. The last non-donor player to join is always the one to be kicked so getting in early is a good sign (unless all the donors in the world try to connect xD).

I'm sorry you've not yet had a chance to play MCSG properly and have to spectate all the time but its something we give to the donors to say thank you and that we appreciate them donating towards the server.
 

rocky19990

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False, never do this. If you join the server before it comes back up green, it gives me a communication error that lasts far past the resetting of the lobby, thus making it impossible to join.
May I ask, how you get that thing below what you wrote that shows how many victouries you've had and stuff like that?!
 

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