A study on ping: Part 1 (Ping vs Wins)

[Kminer56]

IGN: Kminer56
Ping: 55

I like this idea but it's kind of hard to just pick a bunch of people for this. More accurate results would show if you did it for every MCSG player (which I know is impossible, but it would be loads more accurate)

 

[RedMarzBarz_]

IGN: RedMarzBarz_
Ping: 40-56 to AU

And please, please, I'm begging you... Be my math teacher... My current math teacher sucks. ;-;

 

[patrickfalcon]

-IGN patrickfalcon07
-PING 90

 

[Krafty]

Ping doesn't matter as much as you think
There's no difference between 0 and 50ms, but there is a diff between say 0 and 100, but barely...
There is no such thing as a "ping player" you can't be "all ping" as people like to say
Better ping gives you a better ability to get first hits, giving you a slight advantage in a combo
However worse ping makes you misplaced slightly, giving what appears to be better reach
They cancel each other out
Clicking speed + Skill> Ping

What you said is true but I'd like to point out that being misplaced doesn't actually give you better reach, it just seems like it does but it actually doesn't. I hate it when people say that laggers have no knockback, that's false, se only get delayed knockback, which doesn't affect pvp at all. Some people think that because the knockback is delayed on their screen, I can get more hits on them because I'm still within range, that is false because there is zero delay on the laggers screen so I still get normal hits and normal range, even if I lag.

Also, clicking speed doesn't matter that much in PvP.
It's aim+skill>Pint

 

[Ceroria]

What you said is true but I'd like to point out that being misplaced doesn't actually give you better reach, it just seems like it does but it actually doesn't. I hate it when people say that laggers have no knockback, that's false, se only get delayed knockback, which doesn't affect pvp at all. Some people think that because the knockback is delayed on their screen, I can get more hits on them because I'm still within range, that is false because there is zero delay on the laggers screen so I still get normal hits and normal range, even if I lag.

Also, clicking speed doesn't matter that much in PvP.
It's aim+skill>Pint

And even more pointedly, all MCSG skill comes down to is smart play. You can be the best PvP'er ever, but be super offensive-minded and die a lot because you charge into fights too much.

 

[Vinyl]

This thread makes me mad.

 

[SixZoSeven]

IGN: sixzoseven
Average ping to US servers: 39

 

[le quack]

Ign: Quackeryy
ping: 200

 

[Julius345]

IGN: Julius345
ping: 50

 

[Gustyy]

-IGN: gustyy
-PING: 30

I really like what you did! I have never seen anyone do this, I feel like this will be really intresting. So I sign up for this

 

[Primeval]

I have 1000 combined wins (hive and MCSG)
I average 70-95ms

 

[Col_StaR]

I like what this thread attempts to do, since math and facts are nice to have.
However, I feel that the study and the statistics involved is not sufficient to make any valid conclusions.

• The sample size here is much too small for the community's general size. By my estimates, we would need at sample size of at least 300 individual cases in order to be representative of a community our size. Plus the samples being taken are not random, thus they may not be representative of the entire community.
• I do not believe that the conclusion, "the higher ping you have, the more likely you are to win". Not only is Ping a very dynamic data point, but the conclusion itself has the issue on its extremes: having low ping means you can't win at all, and having high ping makes you the best player ever. The logic does not make sense when practicality is factored in.
• The case ignores a very important statistical analysis data point, the Pearson product-momentum correlation coefficient (Or as I learned it, the r Value). The r value checks to see how far the individual data points are from the average, averages out all of the displacements, and then comes up with a value between 0 and 1. That value determines how accurate the average is, and thus how representative the average is to the data. Based on the graph shown, I do not think that the linear regression of the graph is very important, considering how far displaced the data points are. This would further explain the previous point.

Again, I like using facts and research to find information like this. However, statistical surveys require a very particular way of proceeding in order for their results to be valid. You'll understand why such little things matter once you take a college level Statistics course.