My thoughts on Clanwars and Clans generally

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Vietnow

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So first of all I am an EU player, so I can't talk about anything happening on the other regions played on.
Before I talk about what I want to tell you something about the clan history in Europe.

Some time ago there were only a few clans in MCSG, and most of them were fair and had fun playing the game, also there was (of course) clans who played competetivly and tried to be the best of all clans, but mainly there was this clans who tried to have fun and people joining a clan tried to make new friends in the community, sadly this was before i joined the whole clan scene thing.
(Correct me if I'm wrong in describing the clans some time ago)

But the european clan scene has changed over time, and let's say it now is a worse clan scene than back in the days. Honestly I don't really think it can get worse then it is now. But now to the core problems:
Too many clans being made: In comparence to the old days there is way too many clans being made and disbanded after a too short time. To fix this I think there should be atleast a guideline of how many clans can be made/be disbanded by a single player in a few weeks or even a month, of course I know that this will not be followed by everyone but it's still an idea to fix the clan'spamming'.

Too few interactions between alot of clans: I think there is too few interactions between alot of clans, not saying there is no interaction between them,
but lots of clans are just wanting to get some easy clanwar wins and they dont want to get to know some other clans. I think this can only be fixed by the clans itself, of course every clan wants to be competetive but they just forget about being nice to other clans, maybe some clans that don't like eachother could be friends after some talking and interacting with each other. A good way to interact and have fun with other clans is the new EU Clan Leaderboards, which will hopefully help to get clans to get known with each others.

Flame/Hate between clans: There is alot of flame between some clans and/or clanmembers of different clans. For example the clan Nitride by echo_555 and the clan made by Quadrum_ named TeamSypher (Phoenix) didn't really like eachother and even flamed eachother, to be honest I don't like alot of clans/clanmembers too, but let's not talk about me :p. I think it's a sad thing that clans or generally members of the MCGamer community are flaming/hating eachother, you have to look at it like everyone has to help eachother and not flame. A solution for that has already been made by Dave in writing the Clan Rules.

The next thing I want to talk about are the clanwars, now here are the problem of playing clanwars. I am not saying the should be forbidden, but the rules by Dave should be a guideline every clan has to follow.
Hate between clans in clanwars: Of course everybody wants to win and be the best, but propably one biggest problems in clanwars is the hate and flame between the clans, in clanwars you should have fun and you shouldn't hate eachother, I know nobody wants to lose, but is the solution to compensate a loss, in flaming the other clans and/or not being sportsmanlike, this is only
a game. So everyone should think about what they are saying before they write it down and put it in the chat, maybe it hurts people when you call them bad words. Just think about it.

Lacking communication between clans: I know alot of the MCSG players are not able to talk/write proper English ( I'm propably one of them :D), but before you want to argue/talk with other clans on such things as skype or teamspeak, PLEASE try to learn atleast simple english, it will help both you in your life and the other clan to understand what you are trying to say. This is an EU problem only because there is alot of Russian, Romanian and Turkish players, not being able to speak proper english ( this is only the countrys I've seen who cant speak alot of English, of course there's other players from other country's who can't speak english properly but i just called the country's I mentioned the lack of english skills the most).

So that's my opinion on how to fix the clan/clanwar problems on the EU servers, I just wrote this down to get some people to think about it and maybe say something about it in the comments.

Thank YOU, for taking the time and reading this thread, I hope you post your opinions under this too, and maybe tell me what I should add/delete or write better on this, I can stand critism so you can write what you want.

This thread is NOT being made to cause flame or anything like that so stay civilized please :)

I'm gonna tagg some people, who I want to hear their opinions on this!

TimmaaaaH
Domilz
AW1996
Quadrium_
NotCanziano
Austin_HG
cheezedoodles
Master_Kezo

(Sorry if I missed some people and for my poor english, you can correct it anytime you want :p)

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I want to start off by saying that I think Dave's rules are not bad but they doesn't fit in to all the regions and therefore we can't follow them. According arguing etc. it's okay with some arguing but the biggest problem is that almost all the people I have argued with lately starting to swear, trying to insult the other person which is really annoying. You can't argue normally anymore, you can't have a calm discussion which makes it even harder to have a fair fight. A lot of those clans that are swearing and stuff are new clans that are going for the 50 wins 0 losses and as soon as they lose they disband and make a new clan. I can give a lot of examples of when this have happened and it's really sad to see. Theres a huge diffrence from when I was leading The Vikings and Rebels which is now. Back then at the time I lead Vikings you could come to an agreement pretty quick and continue the fight, for example: When we were fighting Legends it was supposed to be 4v4 but one of their guy crashed as soon as the game started, they asked us to do /kill and we did. That's something that will never happen today and it's pretty sad. As it is right now I am quite inactive and don't play Minecraft as much due to the fact that you can almost never play a clan war without people flaming. I really hope that EU sort things out and gets better again.
 

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I want to start off by saying that I think Dave's rules are not bad but they doesn't fit in to all the regions and therefore we can't follow them. According arguing etc. it's okay with some arguing but the biggest problem is that almost all the people I have argued with lately starting to swear, trying to insult the other person which is really annoying. You can't argue normally anymore, you can't have a calm discussion which makes it even harder to have a fair fight. A lot of those clans that are swearing and stuff are new clans that are going for the 50 wins 0 losses and as soon as they lose they disband and make a new clan. I can give a lot of examples of when this have happened and it's really sad to see. Theres a huge diffrence from when I was leading The Vikings and Rebels which is now. Back then at the time I lead Vikings you could come to an agreement pretty quick and continue the fight, for example: When we were fighting Legends it was supposed to be 4v4 but one of their guy crashed as soon as the game started, they asked us to do /kill and we did. That's something that will never happen today and it's pretty sad. As it is right now I am quite inactive and don't play Minecraft as much due to the fact that you can almost never play a clan war without people flaming. I really hope that EU sort things out and gets better again.

I think you're right in all your points, it's just really annoying that everyone just tries to win and insulting people in an argument is obviously the worst thing you can do :D Thanks for that reply :p
 

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I love Radiation we are playong a clan war right now (as you know xD) and you are a such beautifull clan that doesnt dq for one little thing, and also i want to say that the first Dauntless was my fairest clan but after playing 5 clan war i realise i couldnt play fair all the time :( Bcuz every clan got their 'super tryhard dqer' so im not fair as i was before :( But hopfully everyone will start being like before and start get some intense fights and not dq wins.. (Idk relly what i talked about lol)
 

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I love Radiation we are playong a clan war right now (as you know xD) and you are a such beautifull clan that doesnt dq for one little thing, and also i want to say that the first Dauntless was my fairest clan but after playing 5 clan war i realise i couldnt play fair all the time :( Bcuz every clan got their 'super tryhard dqer' so im not fair as i was before :( But hopfully everyone will start being like before and start get some intense fights and not dq wins.. (Idk relly what i talked about lol)
<3

EDIT: shauny y u talk bout urself? ooooo
 

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I absolutely 100% agree. I had a clan that worked out well in the first couple weeks, but then the flame started. There were DDoS issues, flame wars, and just general lack of communication. Ultimately, that led us disbanding. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Also, I feel that is thread is going to cause flame. Please have a friendly discussion.
 

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I absolutely 100% agree. I had a clan that worked out well in the first couple weeks, but then the flame started. There were DDoS issues, flame wars, and just general lack of communication. Ultimately, that led us disbanding. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Also, I feel that is thread is going to cause flame. Please have a friendly discussion.

Yeh, I've heard of the ddos problem on the US server, it's propably really annoying :/
Also, I really hope there won't be any flame against me or others on here, it's just a thread to share opinions :p
 

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