Rule Loopholes - Not being taken seriously enough?

[Mooclan]

And that makes two screenshots from MattScott that have been deleted.

GG, Staff. You're digging your hole deeper. Why do you even bother, sometimes?

Edit: And yes, I DO have both screenshots saved.

 

[Mooclan]

I was hoping someone saw the new picture before it was deleted.

I did - I'll be PMing a few Admins about them soon.

 

[Col_StaR]

Things would be so much easier if people weren't jerks over the internet, or if everyone just had thick enough skin to deal with whatever phrase gets thrown at them. We wouldn't have wasted all of this time and energy focusing on something so unimportant and relatively harmless, and put our efforts towards stopping something more critical like hackers.

I don't even think I want to comment on that topic any further. I'm getting tired of repeating myself regarding an issue that's too minor to punish for, but major enough to get everyone angry with each other.

And that makes two screenshots from MattScott that have been deleted.

GG, Staff. You're digging your hole deeper. Why do you even bother, sometimes?

Edit: And yes, I DO have both screenshots saved.

I deleted the last post which included the last image because it didn't seem to contribute much other than, "Look at the staff doing something questionable."; it further insinuated that such activity was common in staff-only chats as if they were purposely abusing their position and that such inappropriate chat was the rule and not the exception. This is a thread that is meant to redress the rules and discuss the topic of what constitutes abusive chat, not a place to bash staff members with their names in plain sight. And while the last image was more pertinent to the current topic, that last one was both more risque and less pertinent thus I did not deem it valuable to the current conversation.

But if you wanted something to be done about it, we've all seen it and acknowledge that what was said was said. If that person were still staff, or if we had known about this while they were staff, they would have been punished; perhaps they already were, depending on how old that picture was.

 

[TimmaaaaH]

People go around targeting people from game to game, killing them with then saying: "GG eZ" or stuff like that. Though someone types sh*t once (which is something the vast majority says daily) and they get punnished for it. I personally feel like abuse is way worse than swearing, due to swearing being something that is experienced anyway and honestly I don't find it being very harmful. but that might just be me :3
I've heard that before, people saying abuse such as this isn't punnishable because it's just something that kids do, they are competitive and cocky. This isn't very true, I really only have experienced this kind of stuff online, in sports I can't recall people being like this, though it is way more competitive in my experience.
I think abuse like this should be bannable, but it must be reported by the player that is abused. Since in fact no one is abused untill someone feels like they are. Also people would be able to get others banned for saying it in a joking kind of way which obviously isn't harmful in any way.
They can also just filter it, like they did with swearing.

 

[QualiaV2]

People go around targeting people from game to game, killing them with then saying: "GG eZ" or stuff like that. Though someone types sh*t once (which is something the vast majority says daily) and they get punnished for it. I personally feel like abuse is way worse that swearing, due to swearing being something that is experienced anyway and honestly I don't find it being very harmful. but that might just be me :3
I've heard that before, people saying abuse such as this isn't punnishable because it's just something that kids do, they are competitive and cocky. This isn't very true, I really only have experienced this kind of stuff online, in sports I can't recall people being like this, though it is way more competitive in my experience.
I think abuse like this should be bannable, but it must be reported by the player that is abused. Since in fact no one is abused untill someone feels like they are. Also people would be able to get others banned for saying it in a joking kind of way which obviously isn't harmful in any way.
They can also just filter it, like they did with swearing.

Very intelligent post, I hadn't even considered some of your points

 

[Giggity69Goo]

Weird how I never found this thread... +1 for good detailed rant rather than an "MCSG is bad and will be bad cuz people are bad and that makes servers bad and im cool so listen to me"

 

[Mooclan]

People go around targeting people from game to game, killing them with then saying: "GG eZ" or stuff like that. Though someone types sh*t once (which is something the vast majority says daily) and they get punnished for it. I personally feel like abuse is way worse that swearing, due to swearing being something that is experienced anyway and honestly I don't find it being very harmful. but that might just be me :3
I've heard that before, people saying abuse such as this isn't punnishable because it's just something that kids do, they are competitive and cocky. This isn't very true, I really only have experienced this kind of stuff online, in sports I can't recall people being like this, though it is way more competitive in my experience.
I think abuse like this should be bannable, but it must be reported by the player that is abused. Since in fact no one is abused untill someone feels like they are. Also people would be able to get others banned for saying it in a joking kind of way which obviously isn't harmful in any way.
They can also just filter it, like they did with swearing.

I particularly liked the last two paragraphs.

 

[Ephiza]

I particularly liked the last two paragraphs.

I see what you did there.

 

[Cimmy]

Brace yourselves for a huuuuuuuugeeee rant
I apologize in advance for the things you may read. I tried to keep it relatively tame, although it's something that I've tried making a video on like three times in the past two days, and it hasn't worked out, so I'm just going to make a thread on it. But keep in mind, the video was a lot more.. emphatic.
Keep in mind that I've never been a super good thread-poster.


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Hello,
If you play MCSG, as the majority of us do (lol, except me), then you know that terms such as "Get Good", "Rekt", "eZ", and other terms are quite common on the MCG servers, particularly Survival Games-styled gamemodes (SG, QQ, SGC.)
For a while now, they've gone unpunished, as far as I know. I've never even heard of people being warned for this.
Why? Why have they gone unpunished, and not dealt with in any way? Sure, someone may have tried to a few times, but as far as I know, nothing major came of it.

However, I was going through the MCSG rules a few weeks ago, and read this:
(Link: http://gyazo.com/f1e202206443445ed56cb570c3d83ae7)

Okay, let's start with Rule #2.
"We want people in our community to feel safe and respected."
Hmm, let me think of ways that people are not safe or respected... oh wait, I already have a list.

• DDoSing and DoSing. It happens all the time in the clan scene, and yet it's never been punished. Why? Is it because it's not proven or anything...? Like seriously, get some proof, do some investigating.
• "eZ" "Rekt" - Yeah, uh... Do you really think being told they're "eZ" to kill makes people feel respected? Hah, no. Not at all. Why isn't this punishable? There are KIDS on this game!

"Harassment is taken very seriously" and "You may risk being permanently removed from our community".... yeah.. that's only in super extreme cases. What about these things? By picking apart the rule, I came to the conclusion that harassment is a permanent ban, and yet people aren't even warned for these things. Yo, MCGamer! Step up your game!
"Spreading rumors is not allowed" Okay... uh.......... Let's take a moment to think about some rumors that have been circulated in the past... I would mention specifics, but then I could be accused of spreading them even further, so unfortunately I can't. But I'm sure a lot of you know what some are.
"Stalking a player around the servers and constantly targeting them is considered harassment" Uhm, HugBabybear? Hello? I was in a stream run by DoUEvenShift, and Hug and like five of her friends watched the stream and targeted him. We called in a Moderator, and they said it WASN'T harassment. What the fluff? Hug's excuses were like "oh, we happened to be in the same server at the time" and "We're allowed to watch the stream and follow the streamer" Well... not if you're targeting him...FOR LIKE TWO HOURS. Remember the rule that says that harassment can merit a permanent removal, and that targeting is harassment? OK? OK.

Rule #3:
"Keep the chat PG" This does NOT mean PG-13. Yes there may be a swear filter, but be creative! Take into account slang, don't follow a tiny list of like 20 words, staff members! If someone is creatively insulting someone by calling them a yellow-bellied whale-sized pig with an acorn for brains, I'm 99% sure that isn't allowed.
Also, phrases like "WTF" and "Goddammit". WTF = What the f***. "God damn it/Goddammit" applies to like rule #4 as well, I believe... censor maybe?

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Edit: They'll probably see this eventually, but Col_StaR and CAm

THANK. YOU.

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

you can still be banned for insulting people, right? for harassing players? saying incredibly offensive remarks like "4head?"

 

[Kauff]

you can still be banned for insulting people, right? for harassing players? saying incredibly offensive remarks like "4head?"

Lol JustlThelWorst

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

Lol JustlThelWorst

you're ruining it so hard