Rule Loopholes - Not being taken seriously enough?

[Mooclan]

Brace yourselves for a huuuuuuuugeeee rant
I apologize in advance for the things you may read. I tried to keep it relatively tame, although it's something that I've tried making a video on like three times in the past two days, and it hasn't worked out, so I'm just going to make a thread on it. But keep in mind, the video was a lot more.. emphatic.
Keep in mind that I've never been a super good thread-poster.


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Hello,
If you play MCSG, as the majority of us do (lol, except me), then you know that terms such as "Get Good", "Rekt", "eZ", and other terms are quite common on the MCG servers, particularly Survival Games-styled gamemodes (SG, QQ, SGC.)
For a while now, they've gone unpunished, as far as I know. I've never even heard of people being warned for this.
Why? Why have they gone unpunished, and not dealt with in any way? Sure, someone may have tried to a few times, but as far as I know, nothing major came of it.

However, I was going through the MCSG rules a few weeks ago, and read this:
(Link: http://gyazo.com/f1e202206443445ed56cb570c3d83ae7)

Okay, let's start with Rule #2.
"We want people in our community to feel safe and respected."
Hmm, let me think of ways that people are not safe or respected... oh wait, I already have a list.

• DDoSing and DoSing. It happens all the time in the clan scene, and yet it's never been punished. Why? Is it because it's not proven or anything...? Like seriously, get some proof, do some investigating.
• "eZ" "Rekt" - Yeah, uh... Do you really think being told they're "eZ" to kill makes people feel respected? Hah, no. Not at all. Why isn't this punishable? There are KIDS on this game!

"Harassment is taken very seriously" and "You may risk being permanently removed from our community".... yeah.. that's only in super extreme cases. What about these things? By picking apart the rule, I came to the conclusion that harassment is a permanent ban, and yet people aren't even warned for these things. Yo, MCGamer! Step up your game!
"Spreading rumors is not allowed" Okay... uh.......... Let's take a moment to think about some rumors that have been circulated in the past... I would mention specifics, but then I could be accused of spreading them even further, so unfortunately I can't. But I'm sure a lot of you know what some are.
"Stalking a player around the servers and constantly targeting them is considered harassment" Uhm, HugBabybear? Hello? I was in a stream run by DoUEvenShift, and Hug and like five of her friends watched the stream and targeted him. We called in a Moderator, and they said it WASN'T harassment. What the fluff? Hug's excuses were like "oh, we happened to be in the same server at the time" and "We're allowed to watch the stream and follow the streamer" Well... not if you're targeting him...FOR LIKE TWO HOURS. Remember the rule that says that harassment can merit a permanent removal, and that targeting is harassment? OK? OK.

Rule #3:
"Keep the chat PG" This does NOT mean PG-13. Yes there may be a swear filter, but be creative! Take into account slang, don't follow a tiny list of like 20 words, staff members! If someone is creatively insulting someone by calling them a yellow-bellied whale-sized pig with an acorn for brains, I'm 99% sure that isn't allowed.
Also, phrases like "WTF" and "Goddammit". WTF = What the f***. "God damn it/Goddammit" applies to like rule #4 as well, I believe... censor maybe?

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Edit: They'll probably see this eventually, but Col_StaR and CAm

 

[Edog]

Brace yourselves for a huuuuuuuugeeee rant
I apologize in advance for the things you may read. I tried to keep it relatively tame, although it's something that I've tried making a video on like three times in the past two days, and it hasn't worked out, so I'm just going to make a thread on it. But keep in mind, the video was a lot more.. emphatic.
Keep in mind that I've never been a super good thread-poster.


[/rant]
Hello,
If you play MCSG, as the majority of us do (lol, except me), then you know that terms such as "Get Good", "Rekt", "eZ", and other terms are quite common on the MCG servers, particularly Survival Games-styled gamemodes (SG, QQ, SGC.)
For a while now, they've gone unpunished, as far as I know. I've never even heard of people being warned for this.
Why? Why have they gone unpunished, and not dealt with in any way? Sure, someone may have tried to a few times, but as far as I know, nothing major came of it.

However, I was going through the MCSG rules a few weeks ago, and read this:
(Link: http://gyazo.com/f1e202206443445ed56cb570c3d83ae7)

Okay, let's start with Rule #2.
"We want people in our community to feel safe and respected."
Hmm, let me think of ways that people are not safe or respected... oh wait, I already have a list.

• DDoSing and DoSing. It happens all the time in the clan scene, and yet it's never been punished. Why? Is it because it's not proven or anything...? Like seriously, get some proof, do some investigating.
• "eZ" "Rekt" - Yeah, uh... Do you really think being told they're "eZ" to kill makes people feel respected? Hah, no. Not at all. Why isn't this punishable? There are KIDS on this game!

"Harassment is taken very seriously" and "You may risk being permanently removed from our community".... yeah.. that's only in super extreme cases. What about these things? By picking apart the rule, I came to the conclusion that harassment is a permanent ban, and yet people aren't even warned for these things. Yo, MCGamer! Step up your game!
"Spreading rumors is not allowed" Okay... uh.......... Let's take a moment to think about some rumors that have been circulated in the past... I would mention specifics, but then I could be accused of spreading them even further, so unfortunately I can't. But I'm sure a lot of you know what some are.
"Stalking a player around the servers and constantly targeting them is considered harassment" Uhm, HugBabybear? Hello? I was in a stream run by DoUEvenShift, and Hug and like five of her friends watched the stream and targeted him. We called in a Moderator, and they said it WASN'T harassment. What the fluff? Hug's excuses were like "oh, we happened to be in the same server at the time" and "We're allowed to watch the stream and follow the streamer" Well... not if you're targeting him... Remember the rule that says that harassment can merit a permanent removal, and that targeting is harassment? OK? OK.

Rule #3:
"Keep the chat PG" This does NOT mean PG-13. Yes there may be a swear filter, but be creative! Take into account slang, don't follow a tiny list of like 20 words, staff members! If someone is creatively insulting someone by calling them a yellow-bellied whale-sized pig with an acorn for brains, I'm 99% sure that isn't allowed.
Also, phrases like "WTF" and "Goddammit". WTF = What the f***. "God damn it/Goddammit" applies to like rule #4 as well, I believe... censor maybe?

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Can't even begin to tell you how happy I am that someone made a thread like this.

 

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[Brandon6895]

Great thread! But don't forget one of the Staffs sayings, " Just because people take offence to it doesn't mean it's offencive." Makes sense am I right?

 

[Mooclan]

Great thread! But don't forget one of the Staffs sayings, " Just because people take offence to it doesn't mean it's offencive." Makes sense am I right?

But then I must raise the question, why would people take offense if there was no reason? There must have been something that offended the person in that statement, or in the way it was presented. Whether it be the situation that it was in - A team of 2 saying "eZ Rekt" to a solo player that they just killed, or something even worse.

 

[goldlab | |Harv]

Moo, totally agree with you here. You just saved me 30mins on writing the same thread

 

[Blazerboy | Noah]

however i don't really care since none of this bothers me

 

[Damien // Teepwn]

Agreed, I feel like the rules need a large overhaul, too. There's lots of etchy stuff that's unclear and needs to be re-defined.

 

[Mooclan]

however i don't really care since none of this bothers me

Nevertheless, I felt like it should be said because it might not involve people who don't play MCSG like you or me, but the things that I mentioned could impact other people.

Agreed, I feel like the rules need a large overhaul, too. There's lots of etchy stuff that's unclear and needs to be re-defined.

If not that, then certain rules should be looked at a second time, and enforced in different ways. As it stands, certain things are getting by.


I submitted a series of questions to Dave via Google Documents forms, including the following:

(Link: http://gyazo.com/c2d632edc0a8a1d648a742dc27f6a055)
And the answer that I received was,
"The senior staff feel that they are in no way offensive. However they can be perceived as rude, at the end of the day there’s worse things going on that need to be taken care of over those examples. We feel it’s a bit silly overall."

 

[darkai202]

Great thread! But don't forget one of the Staffs sayings, " Just because people take offence to it doesn't mean it's offencive." Makes sense am I right?

I love being DDoS'd it makes me feel loved

 

[Edog]

Nevertheless, I felt like it should be said because it might not involve people who don't play MCSG like you or me, but the things that I mentioned could impact other people.

If not that, then certain rules should be looked at a second time, and enforced in different ways. As it stands, certain things are getting by.


I submitted a series of questions to Dave via Google Documents forms, including the following:

(Link: http://gyazo.com/c2d632edc0a8a1d648a742dc27f6a055)
And the answer that I received was,
"The senior staff feel that they are in no way offensive. However they can be perceived as rude, at the end of the day there’s worse things going on that need to be taken care of over those examples. We feel it’s a bit silly overall."

Well how would you ever find it offensive if you never play in-game... .-.

 

[TomahawkGoesChop]

I couldnt have said it better myself, honestly ;3