The Fishing Rod Is Not Gone. -_-

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TimmaaaaH

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Ah, I am so glad the "fishing rod strategy" has been popularized here at MCGamer.
Believe it or not, it generally does more harm than good to users. I often find myself fighting people who quite literally waste their time using the fishing rod. Said users will hit me with it thinking they did something effective and gain confidence when in reality, they have done little to nothing.
Are you saying that people should not use the fishingrod? Because you are saying that it does more harm than good, which is true but only with people who are new with using it or just not that good. But if you meant that it's a bad tactic to use then you really are wrong.
 

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Ah, I am so glad the "fishing rod strategy" has been popularized here at MCGamer.
Believe it or not, it generally does more harm than good to users. I often find myself fighting people who quite literally waste their time using the fishing rod. Said users will hit me with it thinking they did something effective and gain confidence when in reality, they have done little to nothing.
The fishing rod tactic actually helps ALOT.
 

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Back on topic: What ends up happening is people simply hit others with the fishing rod and think they did something effective.
Although it puts them into a positive mentality, it gives them a false sense of success. Other than that, I really couldn't put it into words. Perhaps tomorrow once I am a bit more awake, I will elaborate a bit.

My personal thoughts in a TL;DR version of the entire subject of fishing rods is: Great for water team tactics and breaking sprint ( i.e. hitting them into a tree or wall while chasing them) however I have yet to see someone use said fishing rod against me in direct PvP in an effective way. Really all I see happening is just a slight delay from when our swords clash as the enemy pushes me back a block or two. Nothing more, nothing less.
Sure, it slows people down by hitting them from the side and front, knock them into a wall. As for hitting them straight from the back, it can actually boost them a bit or slow them a bit depending if the opponent is on the ground or mid-air. Hitting them straight from the back might be necessarily "useless" but that isn't the case at all. Once you've chased the opponent down until his sprint stops, it's harder for him to notice that his sprint broke. It'll also be harder for your opponent to reset his/her sprint while getting hit with a fishing rod multiple times.

If your opponent is running directly towards you and you land your rod at the right distance, there's a great chance that your opponent will get "stunned" and you'll be able to get the first jump on him plus, a high chance your opponent will not be able to land hits you because of this stun.

If you're not in the situation for all this good stuff, I believe that the fishing rod is mainly for ruining your opponent's rhythm and fending off your opponent when you're low.

(It is annoying when someone is chasing you and hitting you with a rod. It doesn't even do anything when you're getting hit from the back.) I use to think that too. That was my mistake.

If your opponent is irritated at your rod, that means it's working. Don't be afraid to use it :)
 
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Recently, I've been trying to learn how to use the fishing rod, and when I first heard it was gone, I was a bit sad...
BUT THENNN @SpellCaster24 later explained it wasn't true <3
 

Cinci | Kame

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Hey there, I appreciate your concern.
However, seeing as the ideas being conveyed between Darkrai and I are directly correlated to the thread topic, I am respectfully but assertively going to continue. You label it as a debate when it is simply a discussion in which different opinions and viewpoints are being exchanged.

Back on topic: What ends up happening is people simply hit others with the fishing rod and think they did something effective.
Although it puts them into a positive mentality, it gives them a false sense of success. Other than that, I really couldn't put it into words. Perhaps tomorrow once I am a bit more awake, I will elaborate a bit.

My personal thoughts in a TL;DR version of the entire subject of fishing rods is: Great for water team tactics and breaking sprint ( i.e. hitting them into a tree or wall while chasing them) however I have yet to see someone use said fishing rod against me in direct PvP in an effective way. Really all I see happening is just a slight delay from when our swords clash as the enemy pushes me back a block or two. Nothing more, nothing less.
It won't break the sprint anymore, thanks to the 1.7 update :( The only thing I can think of it being useful for now is slight knockback and water fights.
 

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No offence sixoseven, but the only reason you dont like the fishing rod tactic is bc you dont know how to do it and it causes you to lose fights against other people... The fishing rod is one of the most important things in pvp. It boosts the other player up and you hit them because you have lower ground. Dont hate on the fishing rod bc you dont know how to use it. Thnx
 

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Hey there, I appreciate your concern.
However, seeing as the ideas being conveyed between Darkrai and I are directly correlated to the thread topic, I am respectfully but assertively going to continue. You label it as a debate when it is simply a discussion in which different opinions and viewpoints are being exchanged.

Back on topic: What ends up happening is people simply hit others with the fishing rod and think they did something effective.
Although it puts them into a positive mentality, it gives them a false sense of success. Other than that, I really couldn't put it into words. Perhaps tomorrow once I am a bit more awake, I will elaborate a bit.

My personal thoughts in a TL;DR version of the entire subject of fishing rods is: Great for water team tactics and breaking sprint ( i.e. hitting them into a tree or wall while chasing them) however I have yet to see someone use said fishing rod against me in direct PvP in an effective way. Really all I see happening is just a slight delay from when our swords clash as the enemy pushes me back a block or two. Nothing more, nothing less.
You sir, clearly dont understand fishing rods in pvp...
 

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