Discussion about the latest gen of mods competence

[ejegun]

As a member of senior staff who has never abused anyone, never not replied to someone's ban dispute and never not unbanned someone I think the ban was unjustified for, I'm saying that you are very wrong, and making such a general statement is not a nice thing to do, both to the newer mods and the senior staff.

As for the statement that Fax made about players who are hated by the senior staff getting permbanned, that is also complete nonsense. I myself have unbanned many people who I do not like, simply because I wasn't going to have them an unjust punishment, regardless of my thoughts about them.

As for the the statement "lately many legit players have been banned"- what do you base that on? I deal with ban disputes, and I can tell you for a fact that there's not an increase in unjustifiable bans. In fact, the number has gone down -we have a different ban system, there were times n the past that you could be permabanned on suspicion of hacking, with no evidence.

In regards to us "keeping an eye on our mods"-we do, we have records of their activities, bans, activeness etc, which we review.

In regards to the "Anti mod crew"... why is that needed? We don't want mods to fear banning people because they might be punished if their judgment was wrong. It is also not needed, as we do not have the issues with new mods that you are raising very much, at all, and when a mod does abuse their powers, they are seen to almost immediately by the senior staff.

You can only talk for yourself. Other Sr.Mods are different. Teo was not specifically talking about you. He wasnt talking about anyone else either. He was talking about Staff in general.

 

[ShaunDepro]

Yet you can't sterotype all (atleast "new") moderators under the category for the abuse of less than a few situations. So far there has been only individual cases, and they can easily be dealt with. If you aren't getting your point across, and want a change so be it - but do not label new moderators as abusive or awful moderators, and fix this assumption; "since all some of them are surely not used to the job." as there are many previously qualified moderators such as myself.

I've seen this again and again, not only in Minecraft. It's that attitude - of either needing to expose mistakes or being to swift in moderator actions. Everybody makes mistakes, or else the server, game and world we lived in would be perfect. I do believe this particular scenario should be looked into, though; but because I do not have full understanding of how you came to be banned from both perspectives it's up to those who do.

 

[ExKing]

What about me ... I think you weren't even Sr.Mod when I got banned and that was nice of you that you didn't lock the thread. Also as I have been here for ages I can agree with what you said that the ban system have been changed but can you tell me. Isn't it a bit unfair,abusive,sad for someone like posts a ban dispute and doesn't get a reply and the dispute gets locked?
Edit : That goes to Le0

 

[ShaunDepro]

What about me ... I think you weren't even Sr.Mod when I got banned and that was nice of you that you didn't lock the thread. Also as I have been here for ages I can agree with what you said that the ban system have been changed but can you tell me. Isn't it a bit unfair,abusive,sad for someone like posts a ban dispute and doesn't get a reply and the dispute gets locked?

How many times has that happened?

 

[Drybear1998]

Ok, guys, I'm gonna tell you something that i want you to remember. You probably know a bit about how the staff works and how we handle bans, but there's still a lot that you don't know.
In almost all of the situations where a well-known player has been banned multiple mods (and sr.mods and admins) have agreed that the player is hacking. If a moderator isn't 100% sure that a player is hacking he shares the evidence with others. (if a mod are about to ban a well-known player he almost always shares the evidence with other staff EVEN if he is sure that the player is hacking) There's a lot more concerning this that i'm not going to talk to you about, but remember this: All of the banned well-known players that you are talking about has been looked over by multiple staff members.

 

[ExKing]

How many times has that happened?

Around 3-4 I think but it was old

 

[Matt_The Dreamer]

No single mod can speak for all the mods, each one is his own individual. There is no point throwing blame at all the mods for something only one or two people may have done.

 

[teovald]

Ok, guys, I'm gonna tell you something that i want you to remember. You probably know a bit about how the staff works and how we handle bans, but there's still a lot that you don't know.
In almost all of the situations where a well-known player has been banned multiple mods (and sr.mods and admins) have agreed that the player is hacking. If a moderator isn't 100% sure that a player is hacking he shares the evidence with others. (if a mod are about to ban a well-known player he almost always shares the evidence with other staff EVEN if he is sure that the player is hacking) There's a lot more concerning this that i'm not going to talk to you about, but remember this: All of the banned well-known players that you are talking about has been looked over by multiple staff members.

There is still a chance that the staffs are wrong.Just sayin'.

 

[Matt_The Dreamer]

There is still a chance that the staffs are wrong.Just sayin'.

There is always that chance. Just because they are "well-known" doesn't make that chance any higher or lower.

 

[ShadowMasterZ]

There is always that chance. Just because they are "well-known" doesn't make that chance any higher or lower.

Completely true, but I still believe the ban was unfair.

Not trying to start a flamewars, nor am I saying teo did or did not hack.

But he was banned permanently and the bans before were also unjustified by what I saw.

I would say, moderators, just look over the ban disputes and his previous bans.
The thing I don't understand, in what part does the evidence speak for him getting a permanent ban?!
Just look at his previous. Many, even moderators knew and agreed that he wasn't hacking. in the previous evidences.

 

[Bredinabox]

I'm sorry, but most of the time someone doesn't get banned for absolutely no reason, it just doesn't make sense you guys obviously have installed hacks. You can't lie if a mod has evidence, if a mod takes a vid or a pic of you hacking its your fault for hacking so shame on you for even writing this thread, there is no point trying to argue. There is no excuse, to get out of a permanent ban. The mod has evidence and nothing will be changed, you will not be unbanned. You should be blaming yourself for installing Nodus or Better sprint mod. If you're gonna blame anyone for banning you,blame yourself for installing the mod. Don't go complaining to others for something that is completley you're problem. You expect people to believe that you were banned for no reason and I'm sure if you weren't hacking you would not have been banned.

 

[ShaunDepro]

There is still a chance that the staffs are wrong.Just sayin'.

There is also still a chance that you are wrong. Just sayin'.