Teams, Targetting & Abuse.

[DE5T1NY]

TEAMS, TARGETTING & ABUSE

Well, hopefully I'm posting this in the right section. I don't really know where to start but I'll give it my best shot.

Recently the teams have really grown to an insane level. I am not at all suggesting that we make teams bannable or even make a "Solo" Survival Games gamemode. As stated in many threads in the past, teams are a massive part of the success of MCGamer and other SG servers. Eradicating teams would discourage many players to continue playing and I do not at all believe that is the path MCGamer should go down. I just feel something really has to happen. I've thought and thought and thought some more and I can not think of anything logical that MCGamer could do to make teams less of an issue on MCGamer. I am not talking about the teams of 2 - 3 but more so the teams of 5 and above. Lately I've been seeing a lot of these around. Nearly 1 every second game. They all just say "We team coz we hav frenz". I mean really, I have many friends that are online playing in my game on a regular basis (I have nearly 300 skype contacts so...) and I do not feel the intense need to team with them. The really frustrating thing is that when I end up killing one or 2 members of the 5 team and then get killed, they just trashtalk until the cows come home. Then I become an enemy of theirs and then they decide it would be a great fun idea to chase me off of spawn for a long time many games in a row. I don't know what MCGamer could do about it but I feel something drastic really has to happen.


Another thing that has been bothering me is the issue of targetting. It is nowhere stated what is considered targetting and I feel this has to change. No where in any of the rules books/forum threads does it state exactly what is considered targetting. I understand that chasing someone on more than one occasion is what is considered targetting but it never says how long they have to have been chasing you for it to be considered targetting. I think MCGamer needs to have some more defined rules on what is considered targetting.


Finally, abuse. Although the trashtalk filter was recently implemented, abuse has still been possible. I am not saying create an unstoppable filter that doesn't allow you to say anything like "Bad" or "Go get a life" or
"Sad tryhard no lifer". I just feel it should be punished more consistently. I do not think that bans should be issued if someone abuses but after repeat offences a permanent mute would help fix the issue. The reason I believe this is that if that person is muted, the issue is fixed. They can no longer trashtalk/abuse as their rights to speak have been taken away from them. Banning someone permanently for abusing is simply to punish them/prove a point. I am aware that extreme abuse should be punished harshly but people can get very agitated and say things that they truthfully regret. Giving them a chance to continue playing on MCGamer as they made a mistake but removing their permissions to speak not only fixes the problem and punishes them, it also gives them a chance to continue playing after they said something they did not at all mean and simply said as they were in an agitated state. I am glad to see that hackers are will now be permanently banned on first offence though don't get me wrong. Hacking should be punished as it is currently (in my opinion) so no issues there.

Please reply with what you think should happen and all of your opinions!

Sorry that the wording on this could have been a lot more professional and possibly have made more
sense, I'm really tired when writing this so don't expect me to be perfect.
If you're still reading, have a lovely day!

 

[AlphaHaxin]

I think they should make teams of 4 or more bannable ;P, even 3 teams are basically unstoppable if they are average at the game unless they're dumb and fall for a chokepoint or something. Really takes out the fun of the game when you just know that there's nothing you can do to win ;3 And for the targetting thing , setting rules for that would probably be really hard, like how do you define targetting ? Chasing someone for like 5 minutes or something I guess , but what if there's 4 people left or something . The rules have to be like Super .. idk accurate? X3 they'd have to be like , no chasing someone for over 1 minute if they have nothing in there inventory that you know of that you need and when the game is less then 3 minutes in and when there are more then 10 players remaining ;3
If that makes any sense ;p

 

[Serecno]

Then I become an enemy of theirs and then they decide it would be a great fun idea to chase me off of spawn for a long time many games in a row.

what where do you play i rarely get in a game with the same player twice. u sure you didnt accidentally invite them to a party??

 

[DE5T1NY]

what where do you play a rarely get in a game with the same player twice. u sure you didnt accidentally invite them to a party??

Here in AU it's a very small community, play with the same people very often.

 

[AlphaHaxin]

what where do you play i rarely get in a game with the same player twice. u sure you didnt accidentally invite them to a party??

I'm EU and I've met people that really don't like me ;3

 

[DE5T1NY]

I'm EU and I've met people that really don't like me ;3

Yeah ;-;

 

[DE5T1NY]

I think they should make teams of 4 or more bannable ;P, even 3 teams are basically unstoppable if they are average at the game unless they're dumb and fall for a chokepoint or something. Really takes out the fun of the game when you just know that there's nothing you can do to win ;3 And for the targetting thing , setting rules for that would probably be really hard, like how do you define targetting ? Chasing someone for like 5 minutes or something I guess , but what if there's 4 people left or something . The rules have to be like Super .. idk accurate? X3 they'd have to be like , no chasing someone for over 1 minute if they have nothing in there inventory that you know of that you need and when the game is less then 3 minutes in and when there are more then 10 players remaining ;3
If that makes any sense ;p

Yeah I know. As it stands, I chased someone from spawn so DM would start and a mod told me "Do you know that targetting is not allowed" after I won. Clearly there is a rule against it but it is really undefined. I also agree with you on the team thing. Against a 4 team of half decent players there's really nothing you can do ;-;

 

[Electrix]

Teams need to be stopped. Probably the best way to do this is to just make a clan battle gamemode (like MCGamer said it would months ago), and then put a limit of a 3 team.

This way, players could still play with friends, but teams of 4 and above would have to split up. I wouldn't see anything wrong with that except for in stream teams, but even then, it's better to have our mainly solo community happy rather than our stream teamers. Besides, Clan Battle servers could be used for big teams and scrimmages.

 

[DE5T1NY]

Teams need to be stopped. Probably the best way to do this is to just make a clan battle gamemode (like MCGamer said it would months ago), and then put a limit of a 3 team.

This way, players could still play with friends, but teams of 4 and above would have to split up. I wouldn't see anything wrong with that except for in stream teams, but even then, it's better to have our mainly solo community happy rather than our stream teamers. Besides, Clan Battle servers could be used for big teams and scrimmages.

Great suggestion!

 

[DE5T1NY]

Thanks for all the responses!

 

[Ceroria]

MCGamer needs to have some more defined rules on what is considered targetting

Targetting is somebody encountering you in multiple games and chasing you and only you for the sole purpose of ruining your game. I don't mean to come off rude, but if you're not a staff member, VIP, or mapmaker you have little right to be complaining about rank specific targetting or asking for a rule change. In most cases, it's usually just because somebody is under the impression that its worth it to chase you for your gear, or because they just don't quite understand the game.

Even as a moderator I'm hardly targetted, although it is really annoying when people do target you off spawn and then trashtalk when they kill you. I can relate, and I do promise that we're working on a more efficient way to deal with trashtalk.

 

[DE5T1NY]

Targetting is somebody encountering you in multiple games and chasing you and only you for the sole purpose of ruining your game. I don't mean to come off rude, but if you're not a staff member, VIP, or mapmaker you have little right to be complaining about rank specific targetting or asking for a rule change. In most cases, it's usually just because somebody is under the impression that its worth it to chase you for your gear, or because they just don't quite understand the game.

Even as a moderator I'm hardly targetted, although it is really annoying when people do target you off spawn and then trashtalk when they kill you. I can relate, and I do promise that we're working on a more efficient way to deal with trashtalk.

Sorry, a 5 team just got pissed at me and was chasing me off spawn for about 5 games in a row. Thanks for clearing things up! Have a great day!